'Living in a council house is like winning a sizeable lottery win' says St Albans councillor, Nat Young

Councillor Nat Young said the amended strategy would cater to "genuine" vulnerable people Councillor Nat Young said the amended strategy would cater to "genuine" vulnerable people

A St Albans Conservative councillor compared living in a council house to "winning a sizeable lottery win" as tempers flared at a council meeting last night to discuss amendments of tenancy strategies.

A war of words broke out in the chambers between all three political parties, as the council debated conservative proposals to amend a motion to introduce a five year tenancy strategy to be drafted by Monday (January 14).

The "flexible" tenancy agreement would mean the situation of a family/person living in social housing would be reviewed every five years, instead of the life-long tenancy strategy that is currently in place.

Conservative backbencher, Councillor Nat Young said the amended strategy would cater to "genuine" vulnerable people who may be homeless, while people that no longer need the help of social housing may still be "wrongly" occupied.

The chamber erupted from opposition parties when the Verulam representative added: "Having a council house is almost like winning a sizeable lottery win."

Labour representative, Councillor Malachy Pakenham mocked his comment and blasted it as "nasty" while the town’s Mayor, Eileen Harris, repeatedly told the councillors to "calm down" and "respect the chambers".

Tory Councillor, Salih Gaygusuz added it was "morally wrong that people are living in social housing earning £100,000 a year and driving around in good cars" while genuine, vulnerable people were struggling to be housed.

Labour and Liberal-Democrat councillors stood in unison against proposed amendments to the tenancy strategy arguing it would create "fragmented communities" and "unintended consequences for vulnerable families", such as being left without a home.

Liberal Democrat Councillor Aislinn Lee, asked Tory councillors to avoid using "a sledgehammer" and take more time to review their tenancy strategy, while Liberal-Democrat Councillor Robert Donald, urged them to avoid making a fast and loose decision and "not to play around with people’s lives".

"We are here to improve security, not dilute it. We need to provide cohesive housing and so far we have currently introduced 31 new homes and plans for 31 new homes.

"This is not good enough. We cannot blame people in need because they are not moving out fast enough", Labour Councillor Roma Mills added.

Opposition managed to override and the amendment was carried 29 votes to 27 votes. The cabinet’s council will discuss the matter further on Monday.

Comments(8)

mr.taxpayer says...
2:53pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Like winning the lottery?

Is this woman having a laugh?

She wants to come and live where I do for a week. An overcrowded, mouldy council flat with noisy neighbours and dog mess everywhere.

Saying that, you often see some of the local junkies buying scratchcards, so maybe they are lottery winners after all?!

Simon Grover says...
5:39pm Fri 11 Jan 13

You can watch the whole debate on the Council's webcast, at www.stalbans.gov.uk - or just watch Cllr Young's "lottery win" comment here: http://youtu.be/eQHy
J1Z1UQY

Arthur Strong says...
8:27pm Fri 11 Jan 13

Not sure that's the correct link, Simon!

lovffc says...
8:52am Sat 12 Jan 13

type in webcast on the st albans council website and the the meetings will be on the left.
I am not shocked by this comment i have been fighting the council for sometime now about housing and have had little luck and not much help. St Albans council and a lot of people do not want council housing in there town and will do little to help those worse off.
If you earn above 50,000 in your house you should not have a council house, if you have never put into the system you should not get anything out, means testing is the way to go but it needs to be realistic.
No family is the same so look at each case individually.
It does wind me up that people sit around and don,t work but there are many that do work on a low income, they need help as well.
Sorry for rant

Simon Grover says...
11:42am Sat 12 Jan 13

Sorry for the wrong link above. The quote from Cllr Young is here:

http://youtu.be/E9rT
XE_R1nY

The full webcast is here:

http://bit.ly/TR0dmV

busbee says...
12:48pm Tue 15 Jan 13

lovffc -not in any way a rant, but a sensible description of a dilemma:
either we build more houses so people who are moderately wealthy -remember once you means test you can always lower the 'eviction' trigger to 40k, 30k or even lower- can stay where they are and add some diversity to the estate, or you turn them into one class ghettos, which they most certainly aren't at the moment.

Having successful moderately wealthy working people in an estate is the best defence against ASB. The policy of evicting them will probably cost more money than it saves.

Arthur Strong says...
7:39pm Tue 15 Jan 13

Why do all Tories have the same sort of mouth? Usually quite thick red lips and a mouth that does not turn up at the corners properly when smiling, so you get this sort of rectangular view of their teeth?

Cllr Young, Lord Caithness, Michael Gove are all examples.

mr.taxpayer says...
3:16pm Wed 16 Jan 13

Arthur Strong wrote:
Why do all Tories have the same sort of mouth? Usually quite thick red lips and a mouth that does not turn up at the corners properly when smiling, so you get this sort of rectangular view of their teeth?

Cllr Young, Lord Caithness, Michael Gove are all examples.
It's from having the silver spoon in their mouth since birth...

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